James Turner is one of our most ‘connected’ members, creator of two Open Humans activities, and an endlessly interesting guy.
Hope: What is most fulfilling to you about being a member of open-access data studies?
James: Getting to meet and, in a few cases, form friendships with the researchers involved. When I was a teenager, I was seriously considering going into genetics before I got bit by the computer bug. Through the PGP and Open Humans, I feel like I’ve gotten a chance to reconnect with that early interest. Because the researchers and participants have a much more collaborative attitude than the typical research project, you really feel like you’re a part of the science, not just another anonymized identifier in a database.
Hope: You created the ‘Open Humans HealthKit Integration’ as well as the ‘Cross-Genome Error Check’ activity on our site. We’ve already written a blogpost about the ‘HealthKit Integration’. Can you talk a little about the ‘Cross-Genome Error Check’ activity?
James: The tool, which is still in it’s very early days, allows someone with more than one variant file (such as a PGP WGS or 23andMe data) to compare the files for discrepancies (i.e., calls that aren’t in agreement between the files.) It’s a work in progress, and anyone who participates should expect to get incrementally more interesting reports over time, as I improve the tool. I’m still learning all the nuances of the VCF format, so take the early results with a grain of salt. We’re seeing some early interesting data, mainly around homozygous vs heterozygous calls, although there have been a few calls that just seem to be consistently wrong.
One caveat: If you don’t have at least two independent genetic datasets uploaded to OH, don’t bother signing up, I won’t be able to return anything useful for you.
Hope: What health-tracking technology do you wish existed?
James: Oh my, such a list I’d have. A really reliable sleep monitoring technology that wasn’t intrusive. A non-invasive continuous blood glucose monitoring device (Apple Watch 3.0?) But probably the biggest one would be to be able to get really accurate nutritional information about anything I was able to put into my mouth, be it purchased, cooked or ordered.
Hope: You learned about Open Humans through the Personal Genome Project. How did you find out about the PGP and what made you join?
James: I’ve always been a big science geek, all the way since I was a kid. I’ve been lucky enough to be able to pursue this interest by being a freelance journalist as a side career, and as part of that, I have to keep up on sci-tech news on a regular basis. I don’t remember exactly what article I was reading that lead by to the PGP, but I had always been fascinated by genetics, and the idea of being able to get my own genome for free was immediately appealing to me.
Hope: Had you ever shared your health data before?
James: I had participated in a couple of clinical trials due to health issues, but they had been more “participate in this trial to get early access to some medical goodie” types of things. I hadn’t publicly shared any of my health or genomic data. I had been a 23andMe customer, and participated in the surveys on the site they were using to do GWAS.
Hope: What type of research are you most interested in?
James: Boy, that’s a hard question. I think that learning more about how all of the disparate ‘nomes (microbiome, genome, epigenome, connectome, proteome, immunome) work together and interact with each other to make us who we are, and how they fail, is going to end up being the holy grail of the 21st century. The idea that understanding the genome would give us the entire picture has proven to be naive, and the next decades are going to have as much to do with understanding how all the systems play together as how any one gene or group of genes function in isolation.
Hope: Have you changed any of your habits because of the knowledge you’ve gained from the studies and projects you’ve joined?
James: Not really. There’s not a lot of actionable information in my data. I did find out why I’ve always had an issue with alcohol making me ill, it turns out I have a rare nonsense mutation in one copy of my alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme (that’s the enzyme that is responsible for metabolizing booze…) But, since I was a very occasional drinker anyway (because it tended to make me feel ill), it didn’t really change my lifestyle. The same mutation has been associated with an increased risk of Parkinson’s, however, so that’s definitely something I’m going to keep an eye out for as I get older.
Hope: Do any of your friends and family share your curiosity for health data tracking? Do you ever try to make converts to your way of thinking about health?
James: My son (who is a biochem major at UNH) is also a member of the PGP and Open Humans, and we chat a lot about biotech and biology in general. My wife is much more skeptical of the idea, mainly because of privacy concerns and the potential for her data to be used for things she would object to. I definitely try to spread the word about PGP and OH to people who I think would be interested, or who seem to have health issues that I suspect would be valuable to add to the public dataset.
Hope: What is your impression of Open Humans so far?
James: It’s obviously early days. I’m seeing a lot of the back-end technical side, working with Madeleine and Beau as one of their beta-test guinea pigs for the new data APIs they’re developing for third parties to work with OH. The big challenge, as with the PGP, is going to be to get enough people contributing enough useful data to make it more than just a boutique dataset. Right now, there seems to be a lot of duplicative effort between projects such as OH, Genes for Good, the 1,000 Genome Project, and the new federal programs starting to ramp up. Everyone is trying to skin the same open consent cat, but my concern is that we’re going to end up with a lot of isolated data sets rather than one big one that lets researchers really leverage the power of tools like GWAS. Hopefully, OH will be able to act as a common hub to get all of them sharing their data together.
The other big challenge is how to represent all the diverse types of data that are coming in ways that are going to be useful to researchers. If I want to be able to easily say “give me the allele frequency of variant X for everyone who has ever had a systolic blood pressure reading about 150”, there’s no good way to do it right now. It’s JSON files and text files and VAR files, etc, etc. It’s going to be a lot of manual groveling (or clever scripting) for anyone trying to mine that kind of data. But this is a problem bigger than OH.
Hope: On your Member page, you mention that you run a charity. What does it do?
James: I’m the President and Chairman of the Board of the Brony Thank You Fund, a 501(c)3 public charity that fundraises from fans of the new My Little Pony animated series. We print a yearly calendar and do other fundraising activities, supporting a variety of causes. We’ve raised close to $200,000 in the past four years, and notably endowed an animation scholarship at the California Institute of the Arts. Currently, we’re supporting the Dana Farber Cancer Institute.
Also, have some pony genomics.
Applejack: Now how in thunderation is one of them twins a Pegasus and the other one a unicorn?
Mr. Cake: Easy. My great-great-great-great grandfather was a unicorn, and Cup Cake’s great aunt’s second cousin twice removed was a Pegasus. That makes sense, right?
— Season 2, “Baby Cakes”
Hope: You’re also a certified open water diver and private pilot. Is that because walking around at sea level gets boring?
James: I’d really like to be out exploring space, but given the relatively low chances that’s going to happen in my lifetime, flying or diving are about the closest I’m going to get to exploring a strange new world. Flying has always been a passion of mine, and getting to earn my license has let me have some spectacular experiences, including circling Niagara Falls at 2,000’ and flying over downtown Boston below roof-level (pre-9/11). Unfortunately, the combination of putting a kid through college, the post-9/11 security environment for civil aviation, and the difficulty of keeping up my medical certificate had resulted in me having to walk away from piloting, at least in the short run.
I learned to dive because my girlfriend (now wife) had won a trip for two to Australia, and there was no way I was going to go to the other side of the world and not dive the Great Barrier Reef. I’m glad I did, because the reefs around the world are disappearing rapidly due to climate change, so it may have very much been an example of seeing them while they were still there. I went diving with my family down in St. Martin about 10 years ago, but haven’t had a chance to since.
Hope: What’s your favorite sci-fi story about health and/or medicine?
James: The book that turned me on to biology and genetics was The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton. I read it when I was 8, and it had a tremendous impact on my life. I’m much less of a fan of Crichton’s later works, as he got increasingly political and tin-foil-hatty, but the book (and the outstanding Robert Wise movie adaptation) still are among my favorites.
Hope: Finally, would you be willing to chat with other OH members on our forum if they have follow-up questions?
James: Absolutely, I’m pathologically extroverted and would love to chat with anyone who has questions or just want to shoot the breeze about geeky stuff.